2025 Tesla Model S Plaid
19in wheels
Luxury Electric Sedan · AWD
Based on battery health, build quality, owner data, EPA range, and market pricing
Above average for 2025 EV Sedans (class avg 69 · top 6%)
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The 2025 Tesla Model S Plaid (19in wheels) is rated at 348 miles of EPA range and 250 kW fast charging, and a worth-pursuing score, but only after a hard inspection and a fair price.
Score read
A 77/100 makes this worth inspecting. Do not let the composite hide this split: software and driver-assist score is 89/100, while owner feedback score is 57/100. On Reddit, owners keep flagging the same two issues: build quality and owner satisfaction. Documented completion matters more than the recall count itself.
Price context
This trim started from $94,990 new. Used examples have come down since launch, but pricing varies by miles, condition, and how the model is moving right now; pull a current KBB Fair Purchase, an Edmunds True Market Value, or an active dealer listing for this exact trim, and anchor your offer there. Walk if the seller will not move off new-car-style pricing.
Who this is for
✓ Good for
- ⏱ Daily commuter ≤50 mi/day, predictable charging
- ↦ Road tripper Long trips, needs DC fast network
- ★ Weekend driver Performance, fun, low mileage
✗ Avoid if you are a
- $ Bargain hunter Best TCO, reliability + low depreciation
Gotchas
- Serviceable Recall paperwork has to match the exact VIN.
Mitigation Use NHTSA and the automaker lookup, then require repair records instead of a verbal promise.
- Verify Owner feedback is the part to read carefully (57/100).
Mitigation Read the complaint themes and ask whether this VIN has already had those issues repaired.
- Verify Current market pricing is not confirmed well enough for this trim.
Mitigation Compare KBB, J.D. Power, and live listings for the same trim before treating price as a buying signal.
Pre-purchase inspection
- 1 Run the exact VIN through NHTSA and the automaker recall lookup before discussing price.
- 2 Compare the dashboard range estimate with the EPA 348-mile rating after a full charge.
- 3 Confirm how much of the 8-year/150,000-mile battery warranty remains and whether it transfers.
- 4 If road trips matter, run a short DC fast-charge session and watch whether speed tapers normally.
- 5 Read the complaint themes, not just the count, and ask the seller whether those issues have shown up on this VIN.
VIN status first This model has 2 NHTSA recall records. The exact VIN lookup decides whether the car in front of you is clear.
Complaint context This scan found 6 NHTSA complaint records (0.2 per 10K VINs, low for any vehicle class). Read the themes below before treating the raw count as the verdict.
Price anchor Current market range is $81,630-$81,630. Use that range to compare listings for the same trim, mileage, and condition.
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- ✓ Happier owners overall
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The federal $4,000 used-EV credit ended Sept 30, 2025.
But 10 states still run their own used-EV rebate programs — some up to $5,000. Pick your state to see what's available for this trim.
Source & disclaimer
Dealers make ~$18,437 on the average car loan.
After the price is set, the finance manager runs four plays to rebuild margin. Every buyer without a pre-approval is a target. Here's exactly what they run — and what stops each one.
78% of dealer loans carry a hidden +1.13% markup above what the lender actually charges. You never see it — it's buried in the contract. · CFPB
Dealer must match or beat your lender — they can't add margin invisibly. The markup play is dead on arrival.
Once you answer, they stretch the term to hit your number. Median result: $4K less off the price, 12 more months on the loan. · Industry avg
Financing is done. Only the sale price is on the table — and the dealer knows it.
Back-office F&I profit averages $1,975/vehicle, up 8.5% YoY. These products exist — but dealer markup is 4–10x what you'd pay elsewhere. · Dealership Guy
Dealer GAP runs $500–1K. Your insurer sells the same coverage for $100–250 over 5 years. Now you know.
"Your loan fell through — come re-sign." This pulls your APR up +5% on average. It's legal. It works because you've already driven the car home. · Ctr for Responsible Lending
A lender commitment letter means the deal is final. "Pending dealer approval" doesn't apply. You can't be yo-yo'd.
That's 15 months of your car payment — handed to the dealer's finance department for nothing.
Takes 2 minutes. No obligation to use it — but you'll walk in with all the leverage.
Pre-approval is a soft credit inquiry — no score impact. FICO treats all auto-loan hard pulls within 14 days as one, so you can still shop rates at the dealer.
NHTSA Recalls (2)
Tesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2024-2025 Model 3, Model S, 2023-2025 Model X, and Model Y vehicles. The computer circuit board may short, resulting in the loss of the rearview camera image. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 111, "Rear Visibility."
A rearview camera that does not display an image reduces the driver's rear view, increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2021-2025 Model S and Model X vehicles. The driver's air bag could tear during deployment. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) numbers 208, "Occupant Crash Protection" and 212, "Windshield Mounting."
A torn air bag may not adequately protect an occupant in a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govNHTSA Complaints (6 total · 0.2 per 10K US vehicles · low for any vehicle class)
The turning signal button on the steering wheel doesn't respond intermittently. It's a safety hazard to not engage a turning signal when making a turn.
The turning signal button on the steering wheel doesn't respond intermittently. It's a safety hazard to not engage a turning signal when making a turn.
The power train of my 2025 Tesla Model S failed. As a result, the car had several systems alert on my console that they were "unavailable" or "degraded", and in addition to the alerts I experienced their loss or degradation in real time. This included braking, steering, stability control, and traction control. Normally you don't have to hold the brake pedal down at a stop light on this electric vehicle, but when the failure occurred my car was rolling backwards at the stop light and so I had to hold down the brake. Also, steering was noticeably degraded and not stable. The car was also exhibiting behavior similar to a stuck accelerator whereby even with my foot off the accelerator the car would not slow up. Tesla had to tow my car to their nearest Tesla service center, and they replaced the front body controller and the battery controller which took three days. There were no warnings whatsoever or anything relating to the power train that were peculiar prior to this incident. It occurred all of a sudden after getting into my car and putting it in reverse to back out of a parking spot. I was then bombarded with several alert messages as mentioned above and drove only about half a mile until I pulled into a parking lot and called Tesla for roadside assistance as the car was obviously not safe to drive.
The power train of my 2025 Tesla Model S failed. As a result, the car had several systems alert on my console that they were "unavailable" or "degraded", and in addition to the alerts I experienced their loss or degradation in real time. This included braking, steering, stability control, and traction control. Normally you don't have to hold the brake pedal down at a stop light on this electric vehicle, but when the failure occurred my car was rolling backwards at the stop light and so I had to hold down the brake. Also, steering was noticeably degraded and not stable. The car was also exhibiting behavior similar to a stuck accelerator whereby even with my foot off the accelerator the car would not slow up. Tesla had to tow my car to their nearest Tesla service center, and they replaced the front body controller and the battery controller which took three days. There were no warnings whatsoever or anything relating to the power train that were peculiar prior to this incident. It occurred all of a sudden after getting into my car and putting it in reverse to back out of a parking spot. I was then bombarded with several alert messages as mentioned above and drove only about half a mile until I pulled into a parking lot and called Tesla for roadside assistance as the car was obviously not safe to drive.
The power train of my 2025 Model S failed similar to failure of 7-6-25 which I previously reported to NHTSA (complaint #11718413) and Tesla. Upon getting into my car on 2-7-26 and putting it in reverse, several alert messages displayed including "stability control disabled, traction control disabled, and emergency braking unavailable". I drove 1/4 mile to a safe area to call Tesla roadside assist, since my steering was noticeably degraded in real time and the car was not safe to drive. The car was towed to the nearest Tesla service center. Tesla made statements on their service report attached here, that this is a "known characteristic of the vehicle" and that if it happens again I should, "exit the car, let the car go to sleep and then once the vehicle is awakened the alert will not be present and it will operate normally". That is not a valid solution, and even though they told me they found nothing wrong when they looked at the car two days later on 2-9-26, I had walked away from the car for more than an hour on 2-7-26 when this happened and the alerts were still there. The tow truck driver who arrived three hours later also saw them and noticed the degraded steering when he drove it. Tesla's solution stated on their service report is not valid or safe. This issue has happened twice in seven months on this car of mine and it needs serious engineering attention.
The power train of my 2025 Model S failed similar to failure of 7-6-25 which I previously reported to NHTSA (complaint #11718413) and Tesla. Upon getting into my car on 2-7-26 and putting it in reverse, several alert messages displayed including "stability control disabled, traction control disabled, and emergency braking unavailable". I drove 1/4 mile to a safe area to call Tesla roadside assist, since my steering was noticeably degraded in real time and the car was not safe to drive. The car was towed to the nearest Tesla service center. Tesla made statements on their service report attached here, that this is a "known characteristic of the vehicle" and that if it happens again I should, "exit the car, let the car go to sleep and then once the vehicle is awakened the alert will not be present and it will operate normally". That is not a valid solution, and even though they told me they found nothing wrong when they looked at the car two days later on 2-9-26, I had walked away from the car for more than an hour on 2-7-26 when this happened and the alerts were still there. The tow truck driver who arrived three hours later also saw them and noticed the degraded steering when he drove it. Tesla's solution stated on their service report is not valid or safe. This issue has happened twice in seven months on this car of mine and it needs serious engineering attention.
I experienced excessive rear tire wear on both rear tires inner side The tire ended up blowing out on the rear passenger tire
I experienced excessive rear tire wear on both rear tires inner side The tire ended up blowing out on the rear passenger tire
TIRES WEAR EXCESSIVLY DUE TO INCORECT FACTORY AND NON-ADJUSTABLE CAMBER SETTINGS CAUSING EXTREME SAFTEY CONCERNS/BLOWOUTS, WHICH ARE NOT VISIBLE WITHOUT REMOVAL OF TIRE OR LIFTING OF VEHICLE BY AVERAGE MOTORIST. MY VEHICLE EXPERIENCED THIS WITHIN FIRST 10,000 MILES ON NEW CAR WITH NEW TIRES. FOURTUNEATLY A FLAT LED TO FURTHER INSPECTION AND REPLACEMENT BEFORE INCCURING TRAGIC OR ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES.
TIRES WEAR EXCESSIVLY DUE TO INCORECT FACTORY AND NON-ADJUSTABLE CAMBER SETTINGS CAUSING EXTREME SAFTEY CONCERNS/BLOWOUTS, WHICH ARE NOT VISIBLE WITHOUT REMOVAL OF TIRE OR LIFTING OF VEHICLE BY AVERAGE MOTORIST. MY VEHICLE EXPERIENCED THIS WITHIN FIRST 10,000 MILES ON NEW CAR WITH NEW TIRES. FOURTUNEATLY A FLAT LED TO FURTHER INSPECTION AND REPLACEMENT BEFORE INCCURING TRAGIC OR ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES.
Tesla’s automatic wipers are unreliable. This vehicle lacks a dedicated rain sensor and instead uses the forward-facing camera and neural net to detect moisture. In light rain, the system often fails to activate. More critically, it frequently triggers false wipes during dry conditions—sometimes multiple times per day. Each dry swipe smears debris (e.g., bugs, sap), reducing visibility and risking permanent windshield scratches. This directly compromises driver safety and optics for the FSD/autopilot system. Tesla has acknowledged the issue but suggests turning off automatic wipers. However, this isn’t possible when FSD or Autopilot is active—they re-enable automatically. Proposed solution: If a wipe is triggered, the system should first activate the windshield washer. This would prevent dry swipes and maintain camera and driver visibility. The current logic is overly aggressive and lacks basic safeguards. Tesla must revise this behavior—both for user safety and hardware longevity.
Tesla’s automatic wipers are unreliable. This vehicle lacks a dedicated rain sensor and instead uses the forward-facing camera and neural net to detect moisture. In light rain, the system often fails to activate. More critically, it frequently triggers false wipes during dry conditions—sometimes multiple times per day. Each dry swipe smears debris (e.g., bugs, sap), reducing visibility and risking permanent windshield scratches. This directly compromises driver safety and optics for the FSD/autopilot system. Tesla has acknowledged the issue but suggests turning off automatic wipers. However, this isn’t possible when FSD or Autopilot is active—they re-enable automatically. Proposed solution: If a wipe is triggered, the system should first activate the windshield washer. This would prevent dry swipes and maintain camera and driver visibility. The current logic is overly aggressive and lacks basic safeguards. Tesla must revise this behavior—both for user safety and hardware longevity.
What Owners Are Saying
"If you’re on the fence about finally upgrading to a new Tesla, for me the time to upgrade is now. $85k for a new Plaid is a fantastic deal for that level of performance. Reactions: Destiny1701 You must log in or register to reply here. I am new - Just purchased a 2017 Tesla S 100D - Mike’sKRD - Sep 15, 2025 - Model S 3 4 5 Model S Dec 21, 2025"
"Dilemma: Model S or BMW iX Hi everyone, I currently have a BMW i X and Tesla model S on order. I initially was fully committed to going with the BMW IX, because I had a less than stellar experience with my previous Tesla model Y. However, the closer I got to delivery date, the more sales tactic/markups etc. I’ve been dealing with with my dealership. This, along with the price drops, enticed me to go test drive a new model S, and I instantly fell in love with it. The quality of the car far exceeded my expectations compared to what I had grown accustomed to with the model Y, and I was pleasantly surprised with the level of storage the car offered for a sedan. Additionally, as someone who does a lot of road trips, I know the Tesla charging network takes a lot of the stress away. Right now I am talking with my dealer to cancel my IX order and go ahead and pick up my model S sometime next week. Since this is a big decision, I just wanted to see what everyone here has as far as thoughts on these two cars, or any experiences that you’ve had: just in case I am overlooking something that I should be considering. My use case is primarily just my wife and I taking our 2 bicycles various places, going on extended road trips (5 to 10 hours at a time), and the occasional hour or two long day trip with our 2-3 nieces and nephews. I did not believe I would like the model S as much as I do, and my impression was that the interior build quality between the two cars is very similar. But, the last thing I want to do is get too emotional about either vehicle, and have the sort of buyers remorse I did with my model Y purchase (which just wasn’t a good fit as a vehicle for me). Thanks! EDIT: Thank you everyone for your input, I’ve sent the email to cancel the iX deposit, and I’m going to take delivery of the Model S next week 👌"
"I initially had 19s on my S P85DL, and later upgraded to 20s as a compromise. I was happy with the wear and performance, however the car was not nearly as aggressive as my S Plaid. Since I wanted performance, I bought the Plaid with 21s. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires are very capable for acceleration/deceleration and street cornering, with a ride that’s harsh compared to a comfort car. I also have the track package, which has 20s, but are 20mm wider in the front and 10mm wider in the rear. The tires and carbon ceramic brakes easily handle 30-min sessions on a road course, but stock brakes fade quickly and would be dangerous if use continued. Since most buy the Plaid for performance, I believe you’ll enjoy the 21s more than the 19s, despite the harsher ride. Reactions: telefunk and pep\_dj Oct 24, 2023163202Scottsdale"
"Apr 27, 202536Phoenix, Arizona > pep\_dj said: > > I also bought the car with the 19-inch wheels because, besides the supposed better comfort, there’s a considerable cost saving. But now I think differently. I believe having a Plaid with 19-inch wheels just for the savings is like ordering a gourmet steak at a five-star restaurant and picking a cheap wine just to save money. > > > Click to expand... I bought mine with the 19-inch wheels. I'm going to upgrade to the Track Pack brakes, so I went ahead and bought a pre-owned set of 21" Arachnids and got the T2 spec PS4S tires installed. It feels more crisp in response now, and I find the ride to be no rougher overall and even a bit more controlled on impacts. Overall, I like the ride quality and vehicle feel better on the 21-inch Michelins than I did on the 19-inch Pirelli's. All are set to factory pressures. Nov 14, 20231048720723 its not really a sports car and doesnt feel like one, its just bouncy and soft regardless of suspension setting because most people like comfort, I have 21s handling is adequate not great"
"115 Tesla Owners Win Final Victory in Norwegian Supreme Court # ⚖ 115 Tesla Owners Win Final Victory in Norwegian Supreme Court In a landmark decision in April 2026, the Norwegian Supreme Court (Høyesterett) has put an end to a long-running legal battle between Tesla Norway and a group of electric car owners. The court rejected Tesla's appeal, meaning a previous judgment in favor of the owners is now final and binding. # Case Background: The "Stifled" Battery The conflict dates back to the summer of 2019. Following a software update, owners of older **Tesla Model S** vehicles (manufactured between 2013 and 2015) discovered that their cars suddenly charged significantly slower and had reduced battery capacity. * **Tesla's Argument:** The company claimed the update was necessary to improve battery longevity and ensure safety, specifically to prevent potential fire risks. * **Owners' Argument:** The plaintiffs argued this was a "throttling" of the vehicle's performance that reduced its utility and resale value, particularly for long-distance travel. # The Supreme Court Ruling The Supreme Court's appeals committee decided not to hear Tesla's appeal against a previous ruling from the Borgarting Court of Appeal. This makes the lower court's ruling **legally enforceable**. * **Number of Plaintiffs:** 115 individual Tesla owners. * **Compensation:** Each of the 115 owners has been awarded a price reduction of **50,000 NOK** (approx. €4,300 / $4,600). * **Total Financial Impact:** For this group alone, Tesla must pay over 5.7 million NOK. When including late payment interest and legal costs, the case is estimated to have cost Tesla Norway over **20 million NOK**. # Key Legal Takeaways The court emphasized that charging speed is a **central characteristic** of an electric car and was used actively in Tesla's marketing. Because this feature was significantly degraded through a software update, it was legally classified as a "defect" under the Norwegian Sale of Goods Act. The case was originally treated as a "pilot case" for four owners who won in 2025. However, Tesla refused to apply that verdict to the remaining 115 owners, forcing another round of litigation which has now concluded. # Why This Matters This case is considered a matter of principle across Europe. It defines the limits of a manufacturer's right to change the specifications of a product *after* the sale through remote software updates. With an estimated **10,000 cars** of this specific type in Norway, this final ruling potentially opens the door for thousands of other owners to claim similar compensation."
"2025 Tesla Model S Plaid - Rattle and Disappointed with Tesla Service... Bought a new 2025 Model S Plaid \~2 months ago (second Tesla, previously had a Model 3 LR). For the price and reputation, the ownership experience has been rough so far: (two vids of the noise...) * **Software issues:** Air suspension + electric braking both failed early on, throwing a flood of alerts. It was kind of a frightening experience, I have to be honest. The car reset after a little while, but it can be a bit dangerous when it happens mid-drive. Both times, I was backing up when this happened. * **Service nightmare:** Scheduled for a rattle in the rear liftgate. The first service center didn’t have the part in time (I was moving states), so they asked that I rebook in my new state (which I was okay with). It did take a month to get an appointment, but I understand they are busy. * **Zero communication when scheduling for service:** I received no updates on the status of the vehicle, and none of my calls were answered when I called the service center. The car said it would be completed the same day, @ 5 PM, but it was only until late at night that I was informed it would roll into tomorrow. I was a bit annoyed with the lack of communication because my work schedule requires me to be on top of it. * **Poor delivery:** The car was returned dirty and at a 20% charge when they had it for TWO DAYS. I figured since I had spent $100,000 on a vehicle, they'd clean it and give it back with a full charge. Every other premium dealer (BMW, Porsche, etc.) cleans before giving it back. Hell, even if you buy a used Porsche and take it to a Porsche dealer, they will quite literally detail the thing before giving it back lol. * **Problem wasn't fixed :(:** They told me the rattle was gone, but it was still there.... and louder the next day. For a $100k+ car, this service feels pretty crap rather than premium. Anyone else having similar issues with Tesla service quality lately? And if anyone can tell me what that noise is and how I can get rid of it that would be great lol, it is annoying."
"Long story short the build quality and reliability has been bad and the service has been absolutely insanely horrible. I've got 2 years left on the 2nd battery warranty. I'm concerned about having to buy another battery in a couple years. I've been a car enthusiast for a while and like trying new things. I like high quality, kinda quirky, high performance stuff. I've been car shopping casually to see what I would get in a couple years, or if I get in an accident or something happens. Overall, wow, disappointing. The quality of everything I've looked at seems just terrible like 90's Kia terrible in $50k-$100k cars and trucks. I know the buzz word is inflation but I think there's more to it than that. All Tesla models have been significantly cheapened on interior and ergonomics. All the switchgear and driver's screen being replaced with the center screen. The new steering wheels seem cheap and terrible. Getting rid of key fobs and relying on apps or plastic cards. Shifting by swiping on a screen, c'mon now. So I do give Tesla a lot of \*sugar\* for cheapening out on their products. The Model S becoming a super cheap economy car from the 90s feeling hit especially hard as a Model S owner."
"Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More. You can install our site as a web app on your iOS device by utilizing the Add to Home Screen feature in Safari. Please see this thread for more details on this. - Dismiss notice Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads. - Discussion - Tesla Vehicles - Model S - Thread starter tallypwner - Start date Sep 21, 2024 Jan 9, 2017380226TallahasseeListings So I've had my 2013 P85+ for a looong time now; much longer than any other car I've owned. I'm used to it and like it for the most part."
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