2024 Tesla Model X Plaid
20in wheels
Luxury Electric SUV · AWD
Based on battery health, build quality, owner data, EPA range, and market pricing
Above average for 2024 EV SUVs (class avg 66 · top 51%)
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The 2024 Tesla Model X Plaid (20in wheels) packs 326 miles of EPA range and 250 kW fast charging, and 8 recall campaigns affect this make/year — verify every one is closed on the exact VIN.
Score read
A 66/100 makes this worth comparing, not chasing. The useful split is software and driver-assist score at 80/100 versus owner feedback score at 48/100. Reddit threads cluster around build quality and owner satisfaction — verify both against the service records. If the seller cannot show recall completion, price that risk or move on.
Is it a good deal?
Used examples are running around $83,600 against a $96,630 original sticker, about 87% of new. At that money you want cleaner-than-average service records, completed recall paperwork, and a recent battery report before you sign.
Who this is for
✓ Good for
- ⏱ Daily commuter ≤50 mi/day, predictable charging
- ↦ Road tripper Long trips, needs DC fast network
- ☷ Family hauler 3+ kids, cargo, towing
✗ Avoid if you are a
- $ Bargain hunter Best TCO, reliability + low depreciation
Gotchas
- Serviceable Recall paperwork has to match the exact VIN.
Mitigation Use NHTSA and the automaker lookup, then require repair records instead of a verbal promise.
- Verify Owner feedback is the part to read carefully (48/100).
Mitigation Read the complaint themes and ask whether this VIN has already had those issues repaired.
Pre-purchase inspection
- 1 Run the exact VIN through NHTSA and the automaker recall lookup before discussing price.
- 2 Compare the dashboard range estimate with the EPA 326-mile rating after a full charge.
- 3 Confirm how much of the 8-year/150,000-mile battery warranty remains and whether it transfers.
- 4 If road trips matter, run a short DC fast-charge session and watch whether speed tapers normally.
- 5 Read the complaint themes, not just the count, and ask the seller whether those issues have shown up on this VIN.
VIN status first This model has 8 NHTSA recall records. The exact VIN lookup decides whether the car in front of you is clear.
Complaint context This scan found 19 NHTSA complaint records (1.1 per 10K VINs, low for any vehicle class). Read the themes below before treating the raw count as the verdict.
Price anchor Current market range is $83,600-$83,600. Use that range to compare listings for the same trim, mileage, and condition.
Pricing & Market Value
A66-rated trim trading 13% below MSRP. Higher discounts on higher-quality vehicles score better — this signal is orthogonal to the TrimIndex composite, not part of it.
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The federal $4,000 used-EV credit ended Sept 30, 2025.
But 10 states still run their own used-EV rebate programs — some up to $5,000. Pick your state to see what's available for this trim.
Source & disclaimer
Dealers make ~$18,796 on the average car loan.
After the price is set, the finance manager runs four plays to rebuild margin. Every buyer without a pre-approval is a target. Here's exactly what they run — and what stops each one.
78% of dealer loans carry a hidden +1.13% markup above what the lender actually charges. You never see it — it's buried in the contract. · CFPB
Dealer must match or beat your lender — they can't add margin invisibly. The markup play is dead on arrival.
Once you answer, they stretch the term to hit your number. Median result: $4K less off the price, 12 more months on the loan. · Industry avg
Financing is done. Only the sale price is on the table — and the dealer knows it.
Back-office F&I profit averages $1,975/vehicle, up 8.5% YoY. These products exist — but dealer markup is 4–10x what you'd pay elsewhere. · Dealership Guy
Dealer GAP runs $500–1K. Your insurer sells the same coverage for $100–250 over 5 years. Now you know.
"Your loan fell through — come re-sign." This pulls your APR up +5% on average. It's legal. It works because you've already driven the car home. · Ctr for Responsible Lending
A lender commitment letter means the deal is final. "Pending dealer approval" doesn't apply. You can't be yo-yo'd.
That's 15 months of your car payment — handed to the dealer's finance department for nothing.
Takes 2 minutes. No obligation to use it — but you'll walk in with all the leverage.
Pre-approval is a soft credit inquiry — no score impact. FICO treats all auto-loan hard pulls within 14 days as one, so you can still shop rates at the dealer.
NHTSA Recalls (8)
Tesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Model S and 2021-2025 Model X vehicles. An air bag with the incorrect horn pad may have been installed, preventing the horn from sounding.
An inoperative horn may prevent the driver from alerting other drivers, increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2024-2025 Model 3, Model S, 2023-2025 Model X, and Model Y vehicles. The computer circuit board may short, resulting in the loss of the rearview camera image. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 111, "Rear Visibility."
A rearview camera that does not display an image reduces the driver's rear view, increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2021-2025 Model S and Model X vehicles. The driver's air bag could tear during deployment. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) numbers 208, "Occupant Crash Protection" and 212, "Windshield Mounting."
A torn air bag may not adequately protect an occupant in a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2024 Model X vehicles. The parking lights and low beam headlights may flicker. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 108, "Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment."
Flickering headlights or parking lights may not suffciently illuminate the roadway, increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Model 3, Model S, Model X, and 2020-2024 Model Y vehicles. The hood latch assembly may fail to detect an unlatched hood condition after the hood has been opened.
An unlatched hood can fully open, obstructing the driver's view and increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2012-2024 Model S, 2015-2024 Model X, 2017-2023 Model 3, and 2020-2023 Model Y vehicles. In the event of an unbelted driver, the seat belt warning light and audible chime may not activate as intended. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 208, "Occupant Crash Protection."
A seat belt warning system that fails to alert occupants of an unbelted seat belt can increase the risk of injury during a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2012-2023 Model S, 2016-2024 Model X, 2017-2023 Model 3, 2019-2024 Model Y, and 2024 Cybertruck vehicles. An incorrect font size is displayed on the instrument panel for the Brake, Park, and Antilock Brake System (ABS) warning lights. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard number 105, "Hydraulic and Electric Brake Systems" and 135, "Light Vehicle Brake Systems."
Warning lights with a smaller font size can make critical safety information on the instrument panel difficult to read, increasing the risk of a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govTesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2021-2024 Model S and Model X vehicles. An incorrect air bag may have been installed when the steering yoke or round steering wheel was replaced with a different style of yoke or steering wheel.
An air bag that is not designed to function with the replacement steering yoke or wheel may deploy incorrectly, increasing the risk of injury during a crash.
Check VIN status at NHTSA.govNHTSA Complaints (19 total · 1.1 per 10K US vehicles · low for any vehicle class)
i was in full self driving mode. the car wanted to turn left but i thought it was going in the wrong direction so i tried to continue straight by turning the wheel to the right forcefully but the car would not let me take over and i crashed into a guard rail. when i tried to brake it was not able to stop soon enough, i have a dash cam footage. i have taken over the this way numerous times and it usually does not require much force to do so, this time it simply would not allow me to control the wheel. no one was hurt other that a guard rail. the car was totaled by insurance company. the police assisted me but i never received a police report. no pictures to share, just a dashcam video but i dont know if that would be helpful since there isn't a way to upload it that i can see. [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
i was in full self driving mode. the car wanted to turn left but i thought it was going in the wrong direction so i tried to continue straight by turning the wheel to the right forcefully but the car would not let me take over and i crashed into a guard rail. when i tried to brake it was not able to stop soon enough, i have a dash cam footage. i have taken over the this way numerous times and it usually does not require much force to do so, this time it simply would not allow me to control the wheel. no one was hurt other that a guard rail. the car was totaled by insurance company. the police assisted me but i never received a police report. no pictures to share, just a dashcam video but i dont know if that would be helpful since there isn't a way to upload it that i can see. [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
Vehicle GPS self driving is malfunctioning. GPS shows the route driving through houses and buildings The assisted self driving is extremely unsafe to use and the same goes for the GPS guided navigation The GPS is untrustworthy giving multiple unsafe routes.
Vehicle GPS self driving is malfunctioning. GPS shows the route driving through houses and buildings The assisted self driving is extremely unsafe to use and the same goes for the GPS guided navigation The GPS is untrustworthy giving multiple unsafe routes.
1. Passenger (next to driver) side no-belt warning is not working. Seat belt warning is not shown even when the passenger (adult) does not wear belt. It is consistently reproducible even when the vehicle is at highway speeds. 2. Passenger side airbag is always OFF even when there is a passenger seated with their seat belt on. I purchased this vehicle in April'2024 and have been consistently having sensor issues. I took the vehicle to a Tesla service center but they did not do repairs. The seat belt and passenger side airbag issue has started very recently. We noticed it 2-3 days back and have reported it to Tesla customer service center via chat message in Tesla app but they have not responded. I called Tesla emergency road number and reported the same but they were not able to help. Hence I am reporting to NHTSA as a last resort to see if the major security issue can be fixed.
1. Passenger (next to driver) side no-belt warning is not working. Seat belt warning is not shown even when the passenger (adult) does not wear belt. It is consistently reproducible even when the vehicle is at highway speeds. 2. Passenger side airbag is always OFF even when there is a passenger seated with their seat belt on. I purchased this vehicle in April'2024 and have been consistently having sensor issues. I took the vehicle to a Tesla service center but they did not do repairs. The seat belt and passenger side airbag issue has started very recently. We noticed it 2-3 days back and have reported it to Tesla customer service center via chat message in Tesla app but they have not responded. I called Tesla emergency road number and reported the same but they were not able to help. Hence I am reporting to NHTSA as a last resort to see if the major security issue can be fixed.
On July 29, 2024, when my husband backed the vehicle out of the garage slowly, the vehicle suddenly accelerated and it hit the stone column causing a big damage to the car. I believe the pedal speed control and emergency brake have problems. When I reported to Tesla, they said the vehicle was not at fault. They said the issue had been resolved remotely by the engineer and cancelled my service appointment. When I asked for the engineer report, Tesla rep told me to download the data report. After I downloaded the data report, it shows no data 2 hours before and after the time of the incident. When I tried to retrieve the video on the replay function in the vehicle, the video was not there anymore. Fortunately, my husband recorded the video on his phone and I have a copy of the video. I feel very disappointed and frustrated with how Tesla handled the issue. If they are not at fault, how come the data report and video are not available? I filed a claim under my auto insurance policy and got the vehicle fixed. This sudden unintended acceleration happened to me back in June when the vehicle accelerated by itself to 41mph. My daughter, who was sitting next to me in the front passenger seat, saw my foot was in the air but the vehicle kept moving at 41mph. We were so shocked and I had to use both feet to step on the brake to stop the vehicle. Tesla eventually replaced the steering column control in the beginning of July. Then, on July 29, the sudden acceleration happened again to my husband. This safety issue needs to be addressed by Tesla more seriously. I should at least get a written explanation of what happened and not just a phone call telling me the vehicle was not at fault. Since the damage to vehicle is fixed now, we would drive the vehicle more often. I don't want this sudden unintended acceleration to happen again, hitting something or someone on the road!
On July 29, 2024, when my husband backed the vehicle out of the garage slowly, the vehicle suddenly accelerated and it hit the stone column causing a big damage to the car. I believe the pedal speed control and emergency brake have problems. When I reported to Tesla, they said the vehicle was not at fault. They said the issue had been resolved remotely by the engineer and cancelled my service appointment. When I asked for the engineer report, Tesla rep told me to download the data report. After I downloaded the data report, it shows no data 2 hours before and after the time of the incident. When I tried to retrieve the video on the replay function in the vehicle, the video was not there anymore. Fortunately, my husband recorded the video on his phone and I have a copy of the video. I feel very disappointed and frustrated with how Tesla handled the issue. If they are not at fault, how come the data report and video are not available? I filed a claim under my auto insurance policy and got the vehicle fixed. This sudden unintended acceleration happened to me back in June when the vehicle accelerated by itself to 41mph. My daughter, who was sitting next to me in the front passenger seat, saw my foot was in the air but the vehicle kept moving at 41mph. We were so shocked and I had to use both feet to step on the brake to stop the vehicle. Tesla eventually replaced the steering column control in the beginning of July. Then, on July 29, the sudden acceleration happened again to my husband. This safety issue needs to be addressed by Tesla more seriously. I should at least get a written explanation of what happened and not just a phone call telling me the vehicle was not at fault. Since the damage to vehicle is fixed now, we would drive the vehicle more often. I don't want this sudden unintended acceleration to happen again, hitting something or someone on the road!
The vehicle consistently displays the message "Rear right safety restraint system fault" on the dashboard since its delivery in January 2024. This indicates a potential malfunction in the airbag or seatbelt system, posing a safety risk to passengers occupying the rear right seat while the vehicle is in operation. Despite multiple inspections and diagnoses by Tesla, the dealership has attributed the issue to a firmware or software glitch without providing a definitive solution. Consequently, the warning message persists on a daily basis, necessitating urgent resolution to make sure the safety and functionality of the vehicle's safety systems.
The vehicle consistently displays the message "Rear right safety restraint system fault" on the dashboard since its delivery in January 2024. This indicates a potential malfunction in the airbag or seatbelt system, posing a safety risk to passengers occupying the rear right seat while the vehicle is in operation. Despite multiple inspections and diagnoses by Tesla, the dealership has attributed the issue to a firmware or software glitch without providing a definitive solution. Consequently, the warning message persists on a daily basis, necessitating urgent resolution to make sure the safety and functionality of the vehicle's safety systems.
I am writing to express my deep concern regarding ongoing safety and service issues with my 2024 Tesla Model X. This is the third Tesla vehicle we’ve owned, and while our previous two vehicles performed excellently, this one has presented serious and recurring problems with the Full Self-Driving (FSD) system. Since the second service visit, we have experienced four separate incidents in which the vehicle has either driven off the road or abruptly slammed on the brakes without warning. Despite two prior service appointments at the Tesla Service Center in Sarasota, FL, these issues remain unresolved. We also scheduled a third appointment, which Tesla later cancelled.
I am writing to express my deep concern regarding ongoing safety and service issues with my 2024 Tesla Model X. This is the third Tesla vehicle we’ve owned, and while our previous two vehicles performed excellently, this one has presented serious and recurring problems with the Full Self-Driving (FSD) system. Since the second service visit, we have experienced four separate incidents in which the vehicle has either driven off the road or abruptly slammed on the brakes without warning. Despite two prior service appointments at the Tesla Service Center in Sarasota, FL, these issues remain unresolved. We also scheduled a third appointment, which Tesla later cancelled.
Tesla remotely blocks a car powertrain without warning if a service invoice wasn’t paid before leaving a service center. This poses a safety risk because the car might unexpectedly become non-driving, such as after returning from a hike with young kids in a remote area, without water, food, or medications. To reproduce this issue, follow these steps: 1. Leave a Tesla service before a service or part is charged to the card on file (this can happen for various reasons). 2. Park the car in an underground parking garage or a remote area with no cellular connectivity. 3. Attempt to return home. The result is that the car will be blocked by an unknown PIN, even if the invoice was automatically charged to the card on file while driving. Without Internet connectivity, it’s impossible to work around the PIN. The car has be towed to an area with cellular connectivity to resolve the issue.
Tesla remotely blocks a car powertrain without warning if a service invoice wasn’t paid before leaving a service center. This poses a safety risk because the car might unexpectedly become non-driving, such as after returning from a hike with young kids in a remote area, without water, food, or medications. To reproduce this issue, follow these steps: 1. Leave a Tesla service before a service or part is charged to the card on file (this can happen for various reasons). 2. Park the car in an underground parking garage or a remote area with no cellular connectivity. 3. Attempt to return home. The result is that the car will be blocked by an unknown PIN, even if the invoice was automatically charged to the card on file while driving. Without Internet connectivity, it’s impossible to work around the PIN. The car has be towed to an area with cellular connectivity to resolve the issue.
The vehicle experienced serious drive control failures on three separate dates: September 21, 2024; October 2, 2024; and July 26, 2025. On each occasion, acceleration was either severely delayed or completely unresponsive, and the vehicle rolled backward when attempting to move forward on an incline. The following warnings appeared on the dashboard: “Stability Control Disabled,” ESC (Electronic Stability Control) warning light, and Air Suspension System warning. These symptoms occurred both while stationary and while driving. The vehicle was brought to Tesla service centers twice—on October 10, 2024, and September 2, 2025. On both occasions, Tesla stated that the issue could not be reproduced and returned the vehicle without performing any repairs. During the second visit, Tesla performed a $275 wheel alignment adjustment. The service report noted that the warning lights “may be restored on next drive.” I was verbally told that adjusting the alignment might help identify the root cause, but Tesla never explained how this adjustment was related to the actual symptoms. After performing the alignment, I was simply notified that the vehicle was ready for pickup. This kind of propulsion failure and rollback on inclines presents a serious safety risk to the driver, passengers, and other vehicles on the road. The issue remains unresolved and could occur again at any time without warning.
The vehicle experienced serious drive control failures on three separate dates: September 21, 2024; October 2, 2024; and July 26, 2025. On each occasion, acceleration was either severely delayed or completely unresponsive, and the vehicle rolled backward when attempting to move forward on an incline. The following warnings appeared on the dashboard: “Stability Control Disabled,” ESC (Electronic Stability Control) warning light, and Air Suspension System warning. These symptoms occurred both while stationary and while driving. The vehicle was brought to Tesla service centers twice—on October 10, 2024, and September 2, 2025. On both occasions, Tesla stated that the issue could not be reproduced and returned the vehicle without performing any repairs. During the second visit, Tesla performed a $275 wheel alignment adjustment. The service report noted that the warning lights “may be restored on next drive.” I was verbally told that adjusting the alignment might help identify the root cause, but Tesla never explained how this adjustment was related to the actual symptoms. After performing the alignment, I was simply notified that the vehicle was ready for pickup. This kind of propulsion failure and rollback on inclines presents a serious safety risk to the driver, passengers, and other vehicles on the road. The issue remains unresolved and could occur again at any time without warning.
I am reporting a potential safety issue with my Tesla Model X. When the vehicle is placed in reverse with the steering wheel turned to full lock, it unexpectedly initiates self-movement without any driver input. I raised this issue with Tesla Service, and they responded with the following statement: "We are aware of this and [it is] currently a known software characteristic at this time. It is under investigation and to be resolved with a future software update." Tesla has acknowledged this issue but has not provided a timeline for a fix. Safety Concerns: This unexpected movement can pose a serious safety risk in environments where precise control is needed, such as driveways, parking lots, and tight spaces. It could indicate a malfunction in the vehicle’s drive-by-wire system, creating potential hazards for drivers and pedestrians. There is no way to predict or prevent this movement without significant driver intervention, increasing the risk of collisions or unintended acceleration incidents. Request for Investigation: Since Tesla has already acknowledged this as a known issue, I urge the NHTSA to investigate its potential safety risks. If this is affecting multiple vehicles, Tesla should be required to release a timely fix rather than leaving owners waiting for an undefined future software update.
I am reporting a potential safety issue with my Tesla Model X. When the vehicle is placed in reverse with the steering wheel turned to full lock, it unexpectedly initiates self-movement without any driver input. I raised this issue with Tesla Service, and they responded with the following statement: "We are aware of this and [it is] currently a known software characteristic at this time. It is under investigation and to be resolved with a future software update." Tesla has acknowledged this issue but has not provided a timeline for a fix. Safety Concerns: This unexpected movement can pose a serious safety risk in environments where precise control is needed, such as driveways, parking lots, and tight spaces. It could indicate a malfunction in the vehicle’s drive-by-wire system, creating potential hazards for drivers and pedestrians. There is no way to predict or prevent this movement without significant driver intervention, increasing the risk of collisions or unintended acceleration incidents. Request for Investigation: Since Tesla has already acknowledged this as a known issue, I urge the NHTSA to investigate its potential safety risks. If this is affecting multiple vehicles, Tesla should be required to release a timely fix rather than leaving owners waiting for an undefined future software update.
Since February 20th, I have begun keeping a log of these occurrences. Below is a summary: [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] (from Estes Park to Fort Collins, CO) and 2 occurrences on [XXX] northbound. [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] southbound. [XXX]: 1 occurrence on [XXX] southbound and 1 near the [XXX] exit in Colorado. [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] southbound. [XXX]: 2 occurrences on [XXX] southbound, on the morning of my service appointment to drop the vehicle off at the Tesla Service Center in Loveland, CO. [XXX]: 2 occurrences on [XXX] northbound, on the way home from the service appointment. each time the car abruptly slows down by 10-15 miles per hours, unless I intervene and stop using this feature. I only use the cruise control feature of the car. There have been several close calls with other motorists on the road. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
Since February 20th, I have begun keeping a log of these occurrences. Below is a summary: [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] (from Estes Park to Fort Collins, CO) and 2 occurrences on [XXX] northbound. [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] southbound. [XXX]: 1 occurrence on [XXX] southbound and 1 near the [XXX] exit in Colorado. [XXX]: 2-3 occurrences on [XXX] southbound. [XXX]: 2 occurrences on [XXX] southbound, on the morning of my service appointment to drop the vehicle off at the Tesla Service Center in Loveland, CO. [XXX]: 2 occurrences on [XXX] northbound, on the way home from the service appointment. each time the car abruptly slows down by 10-15 miles per hours, unless I intervene and stop using this feature. I only use the cruise control feature of the car. There have been several close calls with other motorists on the road. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
Phantom Breaking and vehicle slow down events occur near daily when using the highway when adaptive cruise control is engaged. The vehicle will abruptly try to stop, or slow down aby 5-10 MPH. This has caused several close calls with other drivers on the highways. Date of the incident is the latest. In the last two weeks prior to the incident, it has occurred at least 6-10 times.
Phantom Breaking and vehicle slow down events occur near daily when using the highway when adaptive cruise control is engaged. The vehicle will abruptly try to stop, or slow down aby 5-10 MPH. This has caused several close calls with other drivers on the highways. Date of the incident is the latest. In the last two weeks prior to the incident, it has occurred at least 6-10 times.
I want to bring to your attention a safety issue on the 2024 Tesla Model X. The turn signal buttons are a safety hazard. 1. I have found myself pressing the wrong turn signal button and was nearly in an accident more than once. That’s because the turn signals are placed too close together (see attachment). You have to take your eyes off the road and look down to make sure you are pressing the correct turn signal button. It’s too easy to press the wrong button. 2. At night, it’s hard to read the turn signal buttons as they are not illuminated. This is not only a safety hazard but bad design. Surely Tesla could have put the the left turn signal button on the left side of the steering wheel and the right turn signal button on the right side of the steering wheel. It just makes common sense. 3. It’s even more of a hazard when you are on a roundabout and you want to exit the roundabout. The turn signal buttons are at the bottom of the steering wheel making it very difficult to select the correct turn signal button when you want to safely exit the roundabout (see second attachment). The only real safe solution is for Tesla to revert to the previous turn signals on a stalk, As you are probably aware, with a stalk you select the turn signal with one finger while keeping your eyes on the road. Up for the left turn signal and down for the right turn signal. Very simple, effective and safe. IMHO this hazardous situation warrants a recall to install the previous stalk turn signal device. There is a flood of messages on social media about this safety problem. Nobody likes the new system. I have read online that Tesla's response is that with self-driving you won't need to worry about turn signals. Not every Tesla owner wants or likes self-driving, myself included. This is just a lame excuse. I hope you will do something about the unsafe situation.
I want to bring to your attention a safety issue on the 2024 Tesla Model X. The turn signal buttons are a safety hazard. 1. I have found myself pressing the wrong turn signal button and was nearly in an accident more than once. That’s because the turn signals are placed too close together (see attachment). You have to take your eyes off the road and look down to make sure you are pressing the correct turn signal button. It’s too easy to press the wrong button. 2. At night, it’s hard to read the turn signal buttons as they are not illuminated. This is not only a safety hazard but bad design. Surely Tesla could have put the the left turn signal button on the left side of the steering wheel and the right turn signal button on the right side of the steering wheel. It just makes common sense. 3. It’s even more of a hazard when you are on a roundabout and you want to exit the roundabout. The turn signal buttons are at the bottom of the steering wheel making it very difficult to select the correct turn signal button when you want to safely exit the roundabout (see second attachment). The only real safe solution is for Tesla to revert to the previous turn signals on a stalk, As you are probably aware, with a stalk you select the turn signal with one finger while keeping your eyes on the road. Up for the left turn signal and down for the right turn signal. Very simple, effective and safe. IMHO this hazardous situation warrants a recall to install the previous stalk turn signal device. There is a flood of messages on social media about this safety problem. Nobody likes the new system. I have read online that Tesla's response is that with self-driving you won't need to worry about turn signals. Not every Tesla owner wants or likes self-driving, myself included. This is just a lame excuse. I hope you will do something about the unsafe situation.
Turn signal buttons do not work for short periods of time while driving. It is available for inspection upon request. I am unable to signal for merging and turning which is unsafe. The problem was not reproduced, but was confirmed. Yes the vehicle has been inspected by the manufacturer and corrective action was taken. However the issue has not been fixed. No other warning lights, symptoms, or messages.
Turn signal buttons do not work for short periods of time while driving. It is available for inspection upon request. I am unable to signal for merging and turning which is unsafe. The problem was not reproduced, but was confirmed. Yes the vehicle has been inspected by the manufacturer and corrective action was taken. However the issue has not been fixed. No other warning lights, symptoms, or messages.
1) Yes, upon opening the falcon door there is water flooding down 2) Yes 3) Yes 4) No
1) Yes, upon opening the falcon door there is water flooding down 2) Yes 3) Yes 4) No
It was a windy day I was driving to work I was only driving max 14 mph and there were leaves flying due to the wind and without any warning the phantom break came on and my car just randomly stopped. It was in my neighborhood at 1830. It left me traumatized for few minutes because there was no need for the car to randomly stop like it did. The outcome could have been an injury if I was on the freeway or if a car was behind me. Till this day ever time I drive it i wonder if I will have the same incident again.
It was a windy day I was driving to work I was only driving max 14 mph and there were leaves flying due to the wind and without any warning the phantom break came on and my car just randomly stopped. It was in my neighborhood at 1830. It left me traumatized for few minutes because there was no need for the car to randomly stop like it did. The outcome could have been an injury if I was on the freeway or if a car was behind me. Till this day ever time I drive it i wonder if I will have the same incident again.
Purchased this vehicle new from Tesla on March 29, 2024. As I got home I hear a pop sound come from underneath the car and the abs warning light came on. The vehicle lost some of the functions like regenerative breaking and cruise control. The suspension was also inoperable. I brought the car in on the first availible service date to get the repair done which took a few days. After repair was completed I went back to pick the car up only to have the same warnings appear on the odometer and lost of functionality again 20 minutes into driving home. I contacted Tesla and they gave me another appointment at a different service center. I then brought the car to the other service center and they corrected the ABS and other warning light issue. However, I been experiencing vibration on highways when breaking and regenerative breaking. Since the beginning of ownership. I mentioned it to them but the told me vibrations can be normal with these cars so I endured it ever since until it felt worst after a while. I brought the car in again and they diagnosed it. They recommended changing the rear rotors and brake pads. After picking the car up its still doing the same thing. This costed me $1200 out of pocket. I brought the car in for front end noises and they changed parts under warranty. The noises was gone after the service but a week later I heard the noises again and it worsened. Now they are refusing further repairs and recommended that I take the car to a auto body repair shop.
Purchased this vehicle new from Tesla on March 29, 2024. As I got home I hear a pop sound come from underneath the car and the abs warning light came on. The vehicle lost some of the functions like regenerative breaking and cruise control. The suspension was also inoperable. I brought the car in on the first availible service date to get the repair done which took a few days. After repair was completed I went back to pick the car up only to have the same warnings appear on the odometer and lost of functionality again 20 minutes into driving home. I contacted Tesla and they gave me another appointment at a different service center. I then brought the car to the other service center and they corrected the ABS and other warning light issue. However, I been experiencing vibration on highways when breaking and regenerative breaking. Since the beginning of ownership. I mentioned it to them but the told me vibrations can be normal with these cars so I endured it ever since until it felt worst after a while. I brought the car in again and they diagnosed it. They recommended changing the rear rotors and brake pads. After picking the car up its still doing the same thing. This costed me $1200 out of pocket. I brought the car in for front end noises and they changed parts under warranty. The noises was gone after the service but a week later I heard the noises again and it worsened. Now they are refusing further repairs and recommended that I take the car to a auto body repair shop.
The tire blow up on the freeway while driving with no impact, collision or any warning or any external factors, it’s very well documented all over the internet that Model X Tesla have serious Tire problems associated with faulty tire pressure system TPMS and in accurate tire reading as well with a car alignment that don’t compensate or adjust for the air suspension height changes that is available within the car settings and that causes a rapid and dangerous uneven tire wear that could lead to a tire failure on the road while driving. Tesla just recently recalling 700,000 cars with tire pressure issues and my car is effected as well because we never received any warning before the blowout. We did inspect the tire and documented everting showing no evidence of any that went through the tire to cause it go flat, the car is 8 month old and everything is fairly new and we should never have to deal with such and event that almost got us killed on the freeway, also since we were forced to exit the freeway for our safety driving on a flat tire that did cause a serious damages to the tire and vehicle with no spare wheel available to get it replaced on the spot to prevent any further damages, the car is not safe to be driven with serious Tire Pressure and bad alignment that comes from the factory that don’t match the suspension profile selected by the user that puts lots of unnecessary stress on the tire that causes a serious dangerous event to happen anytime. Tesla is refusing to take any responsibility for this issue even though it’s very well documented and we end up with a $4500 bill, something that we never should be responsible for. Also Tesla manager Oliver Ftankcom suggested that it’s ok to risk our lives staying in the car and not move it after a flat tire so we don’t cause more damages to the car, but we would of been killed on the freeway waiting for 4 hours for a tow truck to show up, so we had no choice but to exit the freeway for safety with a spare tire.
The tire blow up on the freeway while driving with no impact, collision or any warning or any external factors, it’s very well documented all over the internet that Model X Tesla have serious Tire problems associated with faulty tire pressure system TPMS and in accurate tire reading as well with a car alignment that don’t compensate or adjust for the air suspension height changes that is available within the car settings and that causes a rapid and dangerous uneven tire wear that could lead to a tire failure on the road while driving. Tesla just recently recalling 700,000 cars with tire pressure issues and my car is effected as well because we never received any warning before the blowout. We did inspect the tire and documented everting showing no evidence of any that went through the tire to cause it go flat, the car is 8 month old and everything is fairly new and we should never have to deal with such and event that almost got us killed on the freeway, also since we were forced to exit the freeway for our safety driving on a flat tire that did cause a serious damages to the tire and vehicle with no spare wheel available to get it replaced on the spot to prevent any further damages, the car is not safe to be driven with serious Tire Pressure and bad alignment that comes from the factory that don’t match the suspension profile selected by the user that puts lots of unnecessary stress on the tire that causes a serious dangerous event to happen anytime. Tesla is refusing to take any responsibility for this issue even though it’s very well documented and we end up with a $4500 bill, something that we never should be responsible for. Also Tesla manager Oliver Ftankcom suggested that it’s ok to risk our lives staying in the car and not move it after a flat tire so we don’t cause more damages to the car, but we would of been killed on the freeway waiting for 4 hours for a tow truck to show up, so we had no choice but to exit the freeway for safety with a spare tire.
Sometimes I’m not able to activate left turn signal. It works most of the time (I would guess it works 95% of the time), sometimes it doesn’t work. Car does not have turn signal stalk, push button on steering wheel to activate turn signal.
Sometimes I’m not able to activate left turn signal. It works most of the time (I would guess it works 95% of the time), sometimes it doesn’t work. Car does not have turn signal stalk, push button on steering wheel to activate turn signal.
Tesla has replaced the stalk, normally used for turn signals, into touch screen buttons on the steering wheel. It is very difficult to use these buttons to switch on the turn signal, especially if the steering is not pointing absolutely straight. In other words, if the steering is turned at even a small angle, it becomes almost impossible to press the correct touch screen button without looking down and therefore compromising attention to the road. This can be dangerous, especially at higher speeds, when a fraction of a second delay in response could result in an accident. To add to this problem, often times, when sunlight is coming in at a specific angle, the touch screen buttons are not even visible! These design issues are increasing the chances of a mishap when a turn signal is needed. It is also causing a driver behavior change where drivers are not giving the turn signal, when it is needed. All this is resulting in increased risk which is not good. Tesla needs to provide some type of fix for this issue as soon as possible. This could be in the form of putting the turn signal stalk back in, or at least, ensuring that the left and right turn signals are on different sides of the steering instead of one below the other. They also need to change the lighting on the buttons so that they don't disappear in certain types of daytime light situations. They should also make them protrude out slightly so that they can be felt with the fingers instead of being just touch screen buttons dependent entirely on visibility.
Tesla has replaced the stalk, normally used for turn signals, into touch screen buttons on the steering wheel. It is very difficult to use these buttons to switch on the turn signal, especially if the steering is not pointing absolutely straight. In other words, if the steering is turned at even a small angle, it becomes almost impossible to press the correct touch screen button without looking down and therefore compromising attention to the road. This can be dangerous, especially at higher speeds, when a fraction of a second delay in response could result in an accident. To add to this problem, often times, when sunlight is coming in at a specific angle, the touch screen buttons are not even visible! These design issues are increasing the chances of a mishap when a turn signal is needed. It is also causing a driver behavior change where drivers are not giving the turn signal, when it is needed. All this is resulting in increased risk which is not good. Tesla needs to provide some type of fix for this issue as soon as possible. This could be in the form of putting the turn signal stalk back in, or at least, ensuring that the left and right turn signals are on different sides of the steering instead of one below the other. They also need to change the lighting on the buttons so that they don't disappear in certain types of daytime light situations. They should also make them protrude out slightly so that they can be felt with the fingers instead of being just touch screen buttons dependent entirely on visibility.
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"After 5 Years of Waiting… Finally Got My Dream Model X! Just picked up my dream car – 2024 Model X! 🚗⚡️ After months of searching and some serious price drops post-Elon drama, I finally pulled the trigger. I got a 2024 Tesla Model X – Red exterior, Cream interior, 5-seater – with only 2,500 miles, clean title, single owner. Paid $64,500 (shipping included), and after taxes/fees it came to around $71K. Interior and exterior are both in immaculate condition, and I had it fully inspected and passed with flying colors. Originally, I was on the hunt for a 2024 Plaid with FSD in red + cream or red + white. The best I found was $79K for one with 7K miles, but it just didn’t feel like a great deal at the time (still questioning that one a bit tbh 😅). Also barely missed a 2023 Plaid—Red with white interior, FSD, 18K miles—for $66K. Was eyeing it and someone snagged it the next day. That one stings a little. But in the end, I’m really happy with the purchase. I’ve wanted a Model X for over 5 years. Coming from a Model 3, this is a big upgrade for me and totally worth the wait. 🙌 The car’s still en route—just got picked up from the dealer today, and I’ll have to wait nearly a week for it to arrive at my doorstep. 😅 Happy to finally be part of the X club though!"
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"Used model x with low mileage for sale Selling one of the cleanest, most mechanically refreshed 2018 Model X 100Ds you’ll find—new V3 battery, new drivetrain, new suspension, and active Tesla warranty. If you’ve been waiting for a worry‑free X, this is it.This is the one you buy to avoid surprises. 2018 Tesla Model X 100D — 44k Mi — Fully Refreshed Flagship 7-Seater Price: $41,999 or best offer This is a meticulously documented flagship Model X with every major "wear item" replaced with brand-new Tesla parts. Maintained under a $7,550 Prepaid Maintenance and ESA plan, it is mechanically superior to almost any other 2018 on the market. MECHANICAL & TECH REFRESHES (2024–2026) NEW V3 High-Voltage Battery (Oct 2024): Installed at 39k miles. Brand-new V3 Pack (Part #1086755-00-J). Currently delivers 305 miles of range—outperforming original factory specs. \[SEE SCREENSHOT OF 305-MILE RANGE\] Hardware 3.0 & Tech Refresh:Upgraded Full Self-Driving (FSD) Computer and brand-new main infotainment display (no yellowing). \[SEE SCREENSHOT OF HARDWARE 3.0 WITH CURRENT MILEAGE\] Exclusive FSD Subscription Price-Lock: Because I paid $5,000 for Enhanced Autopilot, this car is eligible for the $49/month FSD subscription (a 50% permanent savings over the standard $99/mo rate). \[SEE TESLA APP SCREENSHOT OF $49.00 FSD SUBSCRIPTION\] Air Suspension Overhaul (2024):Full performance refresh including a brand-new Air Suspension Compressor and Valve Block. Zero-Noise Drivetrain (Confirmed Feb 22, 2026): Brand-new Front Half-Shafts and axle seals (Zero acceleration shudder). Tesla confirmed the car "drives excellent with zero noise." (The full Feb 22, 2026 invoice will be sent via email to serious buyers upon request). PREMIUM SPECS & PROTECTION Active Tesla Warranty (Until Nov 28, 2026): Protected by an official Tesla Extended Service Agreement (ESA). \[SEE SCREENSHOT OF EXTENDED WARRANTY\] Paint Protection ($2,000 Value):Full front Clear Bra (PPF) and professional window tinting. Red Multi-Coat paint is in pristine condition. Interior: Rare 7-Seat Configuration with Cream Premium Interior and Carbon Fiber Décor. Wheels & Utility: 22" Onyx Black Wheels, Factory Tow Package, Subzero Weather Package, and HEPA Bioweapon Defense Mode. OWNER’S NOTE "I have invested heavily in this car's long-term reliability. With the new V3 battery, refreshed air suspension, and the total drivetrain refresh completed just this month, this Model X drives like a new vehicle. It is silent, fast, and fully protected by a Tesla warranty for the next 9 months." SECURE TRANSACTION & TRANSFER KeySavvy Guaranteed: For a safe, scam-free transaction, this sale is handled via KeySavvy. They verify the title, handle DMV paperwork, and ensure secure payment (ACH, wire, or financing). Hassle-Free ESA Transfer: Upon sale, I will personally file the Tesla Ownership Transfer forms to ensure the ESA warranty is legally moved to your name. We never smoke in the car Check pictu"
"Goodbye Tesla (Long Story) I’ve been an EV enthusiast for quite some time and have even had the privilege of working with some major players in the space, including Lucid and Rivian. So I’m very familiar with EV products, charging infrastructure, build quality, and the all-important cost equation. My first Tesla was a leased 2020 Standard Range Model 3. As we all know, it’s a great little car that serves its purpose—but it also leaves plenty to be desired in build quality, luxury, size, and overall style. My most recent Tesla was a brand-new 2024 Model 3 Performance with just 8,000 miles on it. There were a few initial hiccups—Tesla had to adjust the steering column, and the dealer somehow installed the wrong tires on a staggered Performance setup—but since it wasn’t purchased directly from Tesla, I won’t fully blame them. That said, I was still kidding myself. Yes, it’s quick. Yes, HW4 is solid. But the same shortcomings were still there. And no matter how fast it is, it’s still a Model 3—even in Performance trim. Reality check: I have two kids—one in a booster and one still rear-facing—so I had absolutely no business daily-driving a Model 3 Performance. My wife does own the Etron SUV version so the kiddos mostly ride in that. I’ll occasionally take them to school and when we go out but there mainly in her SUV. But the deal was good, curiosity won, and I wanted to see if I could make it work. Before that, my daily was a 2019 C63 AMG, my heart has been in Germany for a while. I owned both cars outright, which gave me the freedom to experiment. Over the years, I’ve owned plenty of sport sedans, mostly European, so compromises don’t go unnoticed. Looking for more space, I had what I thought was a great idea: buy a used 2020 Tesla Model X directly from Tesla. I did my Reddit research—some horror stories, but mostly happy owners—so I felt confident. That confidence lasted about five minutes. The moment I drove off the lot here in Las Vegas, I noticed steering wheel vibration and grinding/crunching noises when turning. Turns out Tesla’s “multi-point inspection” isn’t exactly exhaustive. A service appointment quickly revealed bad front half-shafts. Add in cosmetic issues like a squeaky second-row motor and creaking trunk struts, and things were already off to a rough start. The half-shafts were replaced, but the vibration persisted. Trunk struts were scheduled for mobile service, and I immediately booked a second appointment. That’s when the advisor casually told me, “Honestly, you should just buy a Model Y—there are so many problems with the X.” I wasn’t sure whether to appreciate the honesty or file a complaint. Eventually, it was discovered that the wrong tires were installed front and rear, supposedly causing the vibration. They swapped them, balanced and aligned everything, and even replaced the front passenger wheel. In my 36 years of buying cars, I can confidently say this was the worst CPO experience I’ve ever had. Tesla absolutely droppe"
"[UPDATE] My used Tesla buying experience I made a previous post here: about my experience buying a used Tesla. This is an update to the experience now that the repairs are "complete". The list of issues I presented to Tesla were: * 5" scratch on passenger door * 3.5" scratch on front facia * 1.25” scratch on frunk lid, just to the left of emblem (It seems more like a long 5-6” scratch, broken into two 1.25ish” scratches) * 2nd row passenger seat rattles a bit at interstate speeds (If pressure is applied it stops) * Rear driver side trunk piston makes a noise, and shakes when opening (Seems like it is struggling to open trunk) * Front driver side tire sounds rough when coming to a hard stop, or going over speed bumps (Use Summon and it’ll sound rough when it comes to a stop. Also try going over speed bump. Does not sound healthy at all. Uncertain if passenger side is affected as well) * Driver side mirror doesn't auto tilt down when going in reverse, passenger side one does. * The metal piece the trunk hatch locks into is broken down, seems like someone closed the trunk hard * Weather stripping on falcon wing doors are degraded and deteriorating (Both doors. Seems like they’ve left residue on the top as well). * Wiper blades don't seem effective. Likely the original blades and should be replaced. * Driver side window sounds painful when rolling down * Drive side plastic molding near wheel well, and along bottom of door appears to be warping? * Driver side doors (Both driver door and falcon wing door) appears to register direct sunlight as an obstruction and does not open doors fully when sun shines directly on that side. * Rear driver side bumper does not appear to be aligned with body properly. * Headlights appear to be dim when used at night * All tire valve stem caps missing * MCU2 upgrade * Autopilot HW 3.0 upgrade * Tuner upgrade The vehicle was dropped off for repair on December 20th. While en route to the service center I got a low tire pressure warning light, so I added that to the list as well. Was quoted to be returned on December 23rd. On December 23rd they then bumped it to December 28th. The reason given was "You're vehicle is 4th in queue to be worked on, we expect to start it tomorrow", which baffled me, but whatever. They then put in a date of December 28th at 6pm, which as they close at 6pm I knew was a placeholder date. Unfortunately this presented an issue because my wife's grandmother was not doing well, and my wife wanted to drive 300mi to go see her, and we wanted to use the X because of Biodefense mode. So I leaned on the service center to try and get more clarity of when it'd be completed, and was essentially told it'd be after the weekend. Fine, I have my SR+ 3, it's done the trip, it'll be the first time it does it in the cold. Monday, December 28th, rolls around and I wait patiently, and am trying not to be pushy, b"
"Why is the navigation system in the Tesla such a POS? I am visiting an area and through pure luck of having arranged a ride share, my ride that I get to take twice a day is a Tesla model X Signature. I will admit I knew very little about these cars other than gawking at them online and glancing over their specs, but getting to ride in one a lot I am a huge fanboy now, sadly out of my financial reach though, but something to aim for, it is an amazing vehicle and I have to say the gull wings have spoiled me for anything else. However as much as I am wowed by the giant flat panel in the dash, I am extremely unimpressed and dissapointed by how just incredibly terrible the navigation system is. Google maps on my iPhone is far superior, what gives? This is an extremely expensive, luxury car designed by Musk and a team of people that I would assume would want nothing but perfection in such a vehicle. It is extremely slow, when it draws the Navigation route you can actually see it draw, if you go off route, it takes a long time to catch up, redraw and reroute. If you do the pinch and zoom or expand it is very temperamental, does not respond quickly and takes a long time to redraw, especially when zoomed in. There are almost no navigation details to help guide you, unlike on my phone I get names of all the shops and things around me, I get 3D buildings, I get all kinds of very useful, little things that I don't even have to select as extras or layers in google maps to help guide me. When you type in an address, it has no idea where you are and might first suggest a place with a similar name in a different state or not give you the closest of two locations. It never has remembered any of our past locations even though we are going to the same place every day we have to type in the entire address, it never comes up as a history. Even though the driver of the car is logged in. Granted I know nothing about the cars systems but I figure since I see the drivers name at the top of the flat panel and it has recognised her key, that must mean it should be able to remember her driving history, no? Seems logical. One of the things I really find useless is that we have a longish trip everyday, thus the navigation route on the screen is long, but as we drive it and get into town where there is lots of buildings and turns, the map does not zoom in, it stays zoomed out showing this long route and the giant arrow for the car just wiggling around where all the turns are at. You have to manually zoom in to see the route up close. A driver should not have to do that. Every GPS I have every seen, gives the driver the forward view, turn by turn directions, so the GPS looks like the windshield as if you were driving or you can switch to the overhead view and see the whole route. I could go on and on with problems it has, but in short, it's a very poor system and the driver is constantly frustrated by it. The Tesla us supposed to be all about safety, but thi"
"Issue after software update!! Hi just got an update last night on my Tesla model X however after the update every single time I activate autopilot the wiper setting turns to auto mode and it starts coming on despite of it being sunny!! Has anyone experience this problem."
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